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Post by FordTeamRS on Aug 15, 2005 10:12:15 GMT
With only a couple of years more of my schooling left, I'm considering moving to Britain for around a year before starting university to pursue one thing, a rally career ;D. I definately kid you not, one thing I want to know is where can I apply for an international or national rally licence and where I can start of rallying in Britain reasonably cheap? The thought of actually doing this only crossed my mind today, so I'd like to be prepared in a couple years time if I do indeed make the move... Cheers!
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Post by rallynick on Aug 15, 2005 10:59:00 GMT
ok, well one thing is for sure, it is very very expensive. if you want to be winning you will soon find you are trying to beat people with alot of money and who will have lots of things (eg. tyres and spares)
first things first you must get your national B licence, by doing a BARS test. the forest experience rally school in wales is run by hark higgins and is a good plce to start.
the british rally scene is not very good at the moment and isnt a good time to try and start a career, so bear that in mind.
it all really depends on your budget, even something like the 206 super cup costs around 30 thousand a year
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Post by FordTeamRS on Aug 15, 2005 11:14:02 GMT
I'm thinking of just launching a rally career in the UK just to get a feel of competing overseas. I plan to rent a car instead of purchasing one as I only plan to stay in the UK for around a year plus don't want to spend too much money, if I feel I can pursue it further, I do plan to continue my rallying ambitions in Australia.
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Post by Curt on Aug 15, 2005 11:23:37 GMT
What is your budget if you don't mind me asking?
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Post by FordTeamRS on Aug 15, 2005 11:32:15 GMT
Ask me that in a couple years I don't know exactly how much but I still have a couple years to scrape up the money, I'm not looking to do rounds in a WRC car obviously
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Post by Curt on Aug 15, 2005 11:36:50 GMT
I was hoping to do the 205 Challenge next year (www.205challenge.com) and that would of cost about £5,000 but I couldn't get the funds together. I'm hoping to do co-driving next year instead and rally in 2007 (fingers crossed ;D).
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Post by mattwrc on Aug 15, 2005 19:25:34 GMT
what part of the uk are you planning to move to - then we could give you some regional rally websites - motor clubs , events etc
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Post by rallynick on Aug 15, 2005 19:52:02 GMT
i think u shud find out if u are any good first before moving across the world to go rallying
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Post by FordTeamRS on Aug 16, 2005 7:27:53 GMT
what part of the uk are you planning to move to - then we could give you some regional rally websites - motor clubs , events etc I haven't decided where I'll be moving in the UK just yet, I only made the decision recently. i think u shud find out if u are any good first before moving across the world to go rallying The reason why I'm planning to go to the UK is to just take an enforced break once I finish school and before I start university. Then I realised "Hey, I might try rallying over there". I would like to just get a feel of rally driving firstly whilst I'm in the UK and if I feel I can climb the ladder, continue rallying in Australia. Something is just pushing me to go ahead and do this for some reason...
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Post by Curt on Aug 16, 2005 11:04:13 GMT
In the meantime try and do some co-driving or volunteer to do marshalling so you get a feel for it and some experience.
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Post by Vivski on Aug 16, 2005 13:32:44 GMT
Exactly what I was about to say. You a member of a car club? Volunteered for Rally of Melbourne yet?
If you start poking around at a club, you might find a ride for next year in the silly seat. I'm thinking of doing it myself. Very tempted.
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Post by FordTeamRS on Aug 17, 2005 5:10:17 GMT
Exactly what I was about to say. You a member of a car club? Volunteered for Rally of Melbourne yet? If you start poking around at a club, you might find a ride for next year in the silly seat. I'm thinking of doing it myself. Very tempted. I thinking about volunteering there next year provided it doesn't clash with my studying and exams, as for a car club, I'll go and try to join one fairly soon
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Post by Vivski on Aug 17, 2005 5:28:06 GMT
I can recommend Car Club RMIT. Also Pakenham is good. My advice would be to get to as many events as you can. VCRS, VRC and Rally of Melbourne. Talk to some of the drivers and get a feel for what it's all about.
If you possibly can, get out to Rally of Melbourne on September 3 & 4. It's seriously worth it! Do a start or finish control on Saturday and spectate at Kalatha Junction, Don Rd and De Bortoli on Sunday.
The absolute BEST way to learn the ropes is to help out at a start or finish control. The people are always friendly, you get to meet the co-drivers and see every car enter or exit the stage. But you have a full day of chatting to the other officials. I can put you in touch with a couple of stage commanders if you like.
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Post by FordTeamRS on Aug 17, 2005 6:19:20 GMT
I can recommend Car Club RMIT. Also Pakenham is good. My advice would be to get to as many events as you can. VCRS, VRC and Rally of Melbourne. Talk to some of the drivers and get a feel for what it's all about. If you possibly can, get out to Rally of Melbourne on September 3 & 4. It's seriously worth it! Do a start or finish control on Saturday and spectate at Kalatha Junction, Don Rd and De Bortoli on Sunday. The absolute BEST way to learn the ropes is to help out at a start or finish control. The people are always friendly, you get to meet the co-drivers and see every car enter or exit the stage. But you have a full day of chatting to the other officials. I can put you in touch with a couple of stage commanders if you like. I actually was thinking of joining the RMIT Car Club, you read my mind . But I don't think I'll be able to volunteer at ROM this year but perhaps I might do some VRC rounds this year and I'll definately do ROM if time permits...
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Post by 205GTi on Aug 17, 2005 11:55:06 GMT
Howdy fellas Ford.Team.RS - Coming to england to do your rallying is a good idea but make sure your prepared, remember youll need things like accomodation too whilst your not rallying and that can cost you £70 a week for a tiny flat that isnt in a great place If your wanting to come over here and straight out start winning then i can probably tell you now that it wont happen straight off. Also if you want to start and finish a whole season of a single championship rather than just coming here and doing a few events now and then you have to think about the dates of the rallies. you might finnish college in september buy your chapionship rounds might not start untill march of the next year and not finish untill november, in that case id imagine if you were only having a year out you would be back in your home land by november ?? Also if yoiur planning on renting the car for each event, are you planning on renting a fully loaded service van with tools and spares and trailer ?? as i can tell you know you WILL NEED tools and there surely not cheap. As far as licence and everything goes, i take it you will of passed your car test where you are by then rite ?? when you come here i dont know if youll need a standard road car international licence to be able to drive in the UK. Before you can go rallying here you need to go and do a BARS test and then apply for your licence (NATIONAL B ) you cant get your international race licence straight away. What about a co-driver, are you planning on coming here with a nav sorted or were you just planning on trning up and trying t find someone, as its not as easy as you think to find someone, ask curt about the problems im having Another thing thats a pain in the arse here now is that untill your 18 you have to have one of your parents wth you to sign on or they wont let you rally, AND according to new-ish- laws you now cant drive anything that is pulling a trailor on the road no matter what size trailer it is. if you are under 25 rite now you will have to do a trailer test which is another £80 and apparently no-one (well people rarely) pass it first time. As far as championship costs go i dont think you can get much better than the 1400cc class of the 205 challenge for starting out, its about £1800 to have a car built for you - £1200 for a years enteries £50 per tyre and they use f**k all fuel aslong as you dont crash it your sorted. The other good thing with the 1400 205's is that they are in road rally spec so it allows you to go and do those aswell to gain experience. If you dont wanna do that there is the F1000 championship for 1 liter cars which IMO is kinda pointless as there boring lol those cars are things such as nissan micra's and peugeot 106's and even with these if there not mentained peoperly can end up costing alot of money - £1400 for car, £1000 for years enteries, (they use standard road tyres) and basically nothing on fuel again. erm... cant think of anything else at the moment ill get back to you tough if i can CURT I was hoping to do the 205 Challenge next year (www.205challenge.com) and that would of cost about £5,000 but I couldn't get the funds together. I'm hoping to do co-driving next year instead and rally in 2007 (fingers crossed ;Di dont thnk that the 1400's are that much now as i was under the impression that a car was about £2500 when infact its about £1750, i think thata season will probably work out at about £3750 If your wanting to nav for me and willing to pay enteries or atleast the majority of it then PLEASE NAV FOR ME i was planning on doing angelsy in November, entery for this weekend just gone was £190 for a 2 day event, think that the one in november is a 1 dayer so there is a good chance it will be a bit less You up for it ??
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