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Post by Vivski on Sept 30, 2005 3:50:25 GMT
How about WE drive in the next one? We have a budget for tyres, car and development (gravel tyres, rough tyres, tarmac tyres, engine [helps with all performance but costs more], aero, suspension, weight distrobution, diff, etc. And maybe a mechanic with rough, gravel or tarmac setup expertise and maybe reliability too.
To give us the speed, I guess we would have to decide where we wanted it. If we all had 5 reliability points and 8 speed points to allocate, we could go 4 rough, 3 gravel and 1 tarmac or 3 rough, 2 gravel and 3 tarmac, etc. Or we could decide to trade 1 reliability point for a 3 speed point reduction and go 4 reliability, 3 rough, 1 gravel and 2 tarmac.... or go for good reliability and give up 3 speed points so... 6 reliability, 4 rough, 3 gravel, 4 tarmac.
Dont know, it could work somehow. But that might be better than half the people chosing Loeb and Ford or Loeb and Citroen.
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Post by FordTeamRS on Sept 30, 2005 4:25:20 GMT
What about when someone wants to hire Loeb, the first person to express their interest with Loeb will hire Loeb and other teams will have to look elsewhere. Same thing goes for any driver or car
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Post by Curt on Sept 30, 2005 8:41:01 GMT
I think it may be a bit early to start thinking ideas for RFC5. RFC4 hasn't even started yet .
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Post by FordTeamRS on Sept 30, 2005 8:47:40 GMT
True, but it would be good to iron out any issues we may encounter in RFC4 before starting RFC5
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Post by Grenville on Sept 30, 2005 14:08:10 GMT
I like the idea of US driving. I also think that a particular car can only be used by one team. That way a manuf. points system could be used. Big thing is that I want all the members to connect with the game and the other members. Agree with Curt though...lets get signed up for RFC 4 and lets have some fun! ;D
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Post by rallynick on Sept 30, 2005 18:13:36 GMT
i like the idea of been given a certain amount of points, and you choose where it goes
as for 1st come 1st serve on cars etc. i do not agree.
if someone joins late they will only have choice of poor drivers etc.
if YOU wer to drive, how would i work out cost and performance for yourself? this version of RFC was really designed as a team management game, and rallying83s version was where you wer the drivers. I cant really see how i can combine the two but i will look into it and come up with the best system I can
as for all the variables like difs etc. remember that I have to calculate them all for every rally, and having so many different variables makes this task just too hard im sorry to say
also, the comment about having a M championsip. well like i say before, the game is all about team! so there already is a M championsip to a cetain extent. why would you like to drive for 'ford' or 'citroen' when you can drive for your very own team? that was my origional idea behind the game.
think of it as a world championship, just for private teams
i like these ideas, but they are slightly forgetting what my verion of RFC is designed to be. this is not a bad thing, but just mean i may have to step down after this season and let somone else run a new style championship, that builds on the ideas of the previous versions ;D
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Post by Vivski on Oct 1, 2005 2:29:57 GMT
Your RFC is great Nick. I'm not in any way saying otherwise. I was just thinking how to maybe fix the problem of everyone chosing the same driver. Then I thought, hey, it'd be fun if we could drive! We could chose which surface we're good on and how likely we are to finish, so you keep it even by having only so many points to allocate but the characteristics reflect us so it's tailored to suit us. I agree that it's a lot of work, so it's up to you. You do a really good job as it is. I started a thread, 'cos if I didn't I would've forgotten my ideas. Feel free to delete the thread so we can focus on RFC4. Everyone sign up for RFC4! This is going to be fun!
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Post by rallynick on Oct 1, 2005 6:33:43 GMT
lol dont worry about it, im just rackin my brain to work out how to do it lol i really like the idea about choosing your stats from a set number of points...i think that will work
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Post by Mitch on Oct 10, 2005 5:17:26 GMT
What about you have the current teams in WRC and JWRC
WRC: Citroen,Peugeot,Subaru,Ford,Mitsubishi,Skoda,
Maybe: Suzuki, Hyundai
JWRC: Suzuki,Citroen,Ford,Renault,Peugeot,VW,Fiat
and two drivers get picked for each (Us).
The more senior members of the site can go in the WRC and the memebers who haven't been around as long (like me) can drive the JWRC cars. Names get drawn out of hat. Have all the WRC rounds as well as the Safari and Portugal in there as well so there are 18 rounds. That means we can have a driver and manufacturer championship.
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Post by rallynick on Oct 10, 2005 17:38:51 GMT
if you want to do that, rallying83 done a championship like that on some other forum i think
and also RFC2 but that is about to end
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Post by rallynick on Oct 10, 2005 17:39:36 GMT
dont worry, i will find a way to get you lot to be the drivers...
my brain is at work
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Post by mattwrc on Oct 10, 2005 17:49:06 GMT
i like the jwrc for new members etc
however its unfair to newer members if they cant do some parts of the championship and its a lot more work for the RFC staff
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Post by Curt on Oct 10, 2005 22:12:13 GMT
I think for RFC5 it would be a good idea to bring the idea of being a driver back. However like others have suggested we choose our specs unlike RFC2 which was a random process. So in a way instead of us owning private teams, we would be privateer drivers choosing our own setups. I like that idea. Lets bare in mind RFC5 won't be starting until about Feb 2006 though (I guess).
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Post by Vivski on Oct 11, 2005 1:26:40 GMT
One thing I'll say is that if we do drive and select different cars and development and strengths and weaknesses, the net chances should be fair. That would mean making Skoda just as likely to win as Subaru, but I think it would be more fun that way. Then no-one is disadvantaged. But each car still has strengths and weaknesses too. Maybe if the development options are cheaper and give more benefit, it will justify buying a cheaper car and putting more money into developing it so it's competetive with undeveloped top cars.
That way there wont be a rush for Ford and Citroen, we could have 2-3 drivers per manufacturer and have a real manufacturer's title battle where Citroen, Subaru, Mitsubishi and even Suzuki have a chance of winning.
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Post by Lita on Oct 16, 2005 8:28:18 GMT
I like the option of being a driver, that would be a great idea. Of course I am fairly new to this and I missed out on RFC4, my fault-just not quick enough.
Looking forward to RFC5 though and i'll be sure to get my choices in nice and early!!! -LITA
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