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Post by Curt on Jun 12, 2006 8:44:57 GMT
As I'm sure you are most probably already aware Version 3 of Rallystuff.net will be released later this year ( Read More). The new version will have a membership system so users can login and post articles, upload images and enter competitions etc. However the login system will be entirely different to the one used on this current forum. This is because this forum is hosted by proboards.com so I cannot get hold of the database used. To avoid confusion a forum could be built within V3. This means that when a user logs into the website they will also be able to post in the forum without having to login twice. This will be much better for new users as I'm sure they would find it frustrating having to register twice with possible different usernames, that could get very confusing for other users as well. However if the forum was moved to V3 16,000+ posts would no longer be usable. I would keep this forum open, but just as an archive. So on the new site all member's post counts will reset to 0, as well as the overall post count. Also some of the features may not be available on the new forum, but because the forum will be hosted on Rallystuff.net it would be easy for me (or Sam, the other guy also building V3) to be able to add new features which aren't available on here. I'm still 50-50 about whether or not to move the forum, so your comments and votes would be most appreciated. Thankyou.
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Post by FordTeamRS on Jun 12, 2006 9:05:31 GMT
If this "new" forum will have similar and perhaps more superior features than the current forum, then I'll support a change for sure. Also it would make more sense if you can enter competitions and what not without having one RSF account for that, and another RSF account for the forum. Ultimately, if it's easier for you and the forum can be further improved, then I'm for it for sure.
Also if users want to carryover their post count, could it be possible to manipulate each member's post count?
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Post by Mitch on Jun 12, 2006 9:37:50 GMT
Same here FTRS. If we are moving forward in time, progress must happen.
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Post by Nick McRae on Jun 12, 2006 9:59:15 GMT
I haven't been a regular on here for that long so I wouldn't really lose a lot of posts etc. I'm well for the idea of one login - after all we are in an era where everything is being merged into one (camera mp3 phones) for example. I don't know an awful lot about computers but I always hear people going on about webspace on their sites, so could the forum being used on the site eat into this "space" quite quickly?
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Post by Curt on Jun 12, 2006 9:59:28 GMT
Also if users want to carryover their post count, could it be possible to manipulate each member's post count? This is possible but it might looks a bit strange considering there will be a total post count of 0 on the forum, and a possibility of over 16,000+ posts between members on their profiles. Its something to consider though. The new forum will have a similar layout to the proboards one so it should still be quite easy to use. I made a similar rip off proboard forum a few months ago, but since then Ive learnt quite a lot and so has Sam.
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Post by Curt on Jun 12, 2006 10:05:11 GMT
I don't know an awful lot about computers but I always hear people going on about webspace on their sites, so could the forum being used on the site eat into this "space" quite quickly? The forum will use up hardly any space. It will all be built on one page (like this one and the one I built before) which will be about 100KB maximum. Then all posts will be stored in a database and each post will be very small. I don't know the exact size of each, but it will be very small. The database I currently use on my blog site is only 1.16MB and the forum database in that is only a very small part of it so there is no limitations with posts. Also there is too much space on the server as it is. There is 3000MB avaliable and I currently only use 4% of that including Rallystuff.net, my blog site and a temporary website I made which will be moved when the owner gets webspace.
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Post by mattwrc on Jun 12, 2006 10:24:42 GMT
yea i think merge of both the website and the forum will make things alot easier
will we have to re-register etc to use the new look forum or not?
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Post by chrisfinch on Jun 12, 2006 10:57:07 GMT
Merging the two together souns the best option, hut the losing of posts is a downfall. Only a small one mind, if we were to have a better forum I would be all for that, but proboards is fine for the moment. AAARRRGGHHH There are so many things to think about and consider, but in the end it's what attracts new members. The problem with a new foum is that it would be basically starting again, and what would new members prefer??? An older forum with lots of posts, so they know the people know their stuff, or a brand new that they can start from the beginning, and not feel too overawed by the amount of posts. 'Tis a difficult choice.
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Post by FordTeamRS on Jun 12, 2006 11:30:53 GMT
Perhaps launching a beta version of the "new" forum to see how it goes for a couple of weeks, and if it works out or not, then perhaps launch it. And any bugs found with the forum could be ironed out during the beta phase instead of discovering once the forum has been formally released
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Post by Mitch on Jun 13, 2006 1:30:38 GMT
Good ideaFTRS
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Post by JJ on Jun 13, 2006 10:44:53 GMT
The post count wouldnt worry me seen as though i've been here two days!
I also think FTRS' idea about a 'beta' version is a good one but only if its do-able
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Post by Curt on Jun 13, 2006 11:23:16 GMT
I like the idea of Beta testing. Also that could give some members a chance to post some threads etc so that when the site is open it isn't empty. I will most probably ask for some testers to try out the beta version. So contact me closer to the day if you are interested in doing that. Since my last post Ive had a word with Sam and hes pretty confident that between us we know how to create a complete replica of the proboards forum so in terms of the quality of the new forum it should be the same. However any images (including smileys) won't be on the new forum as we don't have permission for these. Also, off the subject of the forum, a few new changes may be included in the competition section of the site. Members will be rewarded points for their position at the end of each round which will contribute to an overall winner at the end of the year. The results will be stored in a league table. There is also an idea of using money (fake) for the competition. So that you bet amounts on which positions you prediect correct, then at the end of each round members are ranked according to how much money they won, but I'm still not certain this would work well. yea i think merge of both the website and the forum will make things alot easier will we have to re-register etc to use the new look forum or not? V3 will use a free membership system so its easier for users to enter competitions etc. The forum will run off the same membership system. So when you initially login to the site you will be able to do everything with that on login.
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Post by mattwrc on Jun 13, 2006 18:00:01 GMT
to be honest i dont really like the money betting style of the competitions think it should be keeped more how it is now
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Post by Nick McRae on Jun 13, 2006 18:11:05 GMT
to be honest i dont really like the money betting style of the competitions think it should be keeped more how it is now Yeah with teh betting - for me anyway! - it could get quite confusing and if your an unlucky person then...
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Post by Curt on Jun 13, 2006 18:24:22 GMT
Fair enough. There were many flaws with the idea anyway.
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